Tales from the DarkSide
Tales from the Dark Side is another free online riddle challenge. This game has been made for EscapeGames24 by 15 different contributors. Each produced a level for this game. Beware, it is very hard. Good luck and have fun!Play this Game
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536 comments:
Faltu! That was fun...You covered so many forms of communication!!
working on swissmiss level. I'm stuck on chapter 3 and IV.
chapter 3: couldn't identify the mountain. Google image search and tineye does not return a name.
chapter IV: did the calculation and got 4 or 5 letters that wouldn't make a word. Tried google translate and tried roman conversion too. Is the picture dhaulagiri?
Ruff
3) is Molamenqing
And for the other one the pic name is very important, there are more dhaulagiri ones. Use that pic name.
@s-t: ty ty ty. :big hug: Solved swissmiss!
@s-t, may I hava a small hint on how to pick letters from your rhyme. I have been staring at it since last night.
The egg you mean Ruff?
You only have 8 lines (so 8 letters to pick). And every line has a certain amount of words.
@s-t, thank you so so much again. Solved s-t level! It's very clever. I have been counting letters, using notepad to push and pull etc.
Wow Lulu! That was a riddle within a riddle...Thanks!!!
I finally finished!!!!! Amazing game everyone. Thanks go to all the level makers, the players, and especially to Jon and Small-tool who spent a lot of time making this game.
Oh and a big thank you to all of you who gave hints. They were very helpful.
Sorry to post 3 times in a row, but I just realized I forgot to mention Clio and Yoli doing the congrats page. I loved it, especially the part about throwing the brick. Well done girls.
Congrats to JBG and Donas!! The Masters of the Masters!!! They have done it!!!AWESOME!!!
Help please, the 2nd egg of queens riddle.
I don't see how to relate the letters to colors. I have seen sc and pic title and think i know what to do, but need to understand the letters.
For example, which color is letter T? letter E? etc
ANGIE, Hello, you need to find the color key, use source hint to find an egg for the key :)
Oh, thanks. That helps a lot :) Don't have time to solve now, but will look at it later.
Im working on jbg, and have the numbers from his pic, but cant seem to decode them? Thought they were hex, but anyway....not working for me. A hint that is as subtle as a tractor, please.
clio, you re right , convert to b...y
Thank you new. I did that and lined them up...and got a word...and now ive no idea what to do next, because the word is not the answer.
forget that new....i made a typo..ooops
You guys are amazing!! I've solved Mr. Tum Tum, Mtatt and now jbg. Brilliant and fun, all them. Mtatt, you are a tricky mctrickster..lol. My next attempt will be Bigtank....and this one i will do with slobber-chops watching over my shoulder..x x x
Yayyyy....Thank you Scooby, your Mum is proud. Bigtank solved. Fun as well. Thanks, Sal.
If you are playing this later....here are my hints (so far) for the spectacularly riddle challenged..like myself: With Guts....Count how many of each letter and then..using A=1 B=2, get your letters. Arrange them like the level is set out. Then read them upwards each row..starting from bottom right.
For Mtatt...ooooo...he's a tricky one. First off, look at the pic...and then note the word written on the bottom right of the pic. Using the image and that word..find the song. Enter that..and move on, to the tricky part. Using the pic name/numbers (open in a new tab to see what it is)...AND the numbers ON that page...you will get two words ..once again..A=1 B=2..but you have to work out which numbers are single or double digit. Don't just look at the symbols on the front of the pic...you NEED to have the two words to be able to decode those symbols. A whole heap of fun. I loved it.
Jbg: I think i shortcutted this one....but i blame the good lessons learned from all the experts. I was taught: 1.Check source code. 2.Put pic into Jeffrey's exif viewer. Using Jeff..i found a heap of numbers which i thought were hex, (using paulschou) but gave gibberish. What you need to do is note the binary given. Note how many groups of binary numbers there are. You will find there are enough to be grouped into a square. Do that..(i used ms word, because i dont know many programs and it seemed the easiest way for me). When you've done that..look and make a pattern from the numbers..0=nothing and 1=use your pencil...Using the one's...you should make a word...and thats your answer. So clever of jbg, wouldnt you agree?
TVM, clio,
for your level guide thrus!
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Plz continue with them, thereby I can solve all the levels I'm still stuck on just in a snap!
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I have problem loading the riddle page. Is it just me or is the link down? :(
Ruff,
ditto for us all - I suppose, Webs is acting up again...
:-/
LOL clio
these are not just hints
its a complete WT step by step
excellent written though
I was lucky and had Scooby helping me i think because, I immediately noticed that one of the words was written in a slightly different colour. Then using the lessons taught, checked source code. S/code reveals information needed. Next thing i noticed was that the pic was clickable. It opened another page with a pic. Note the shape of one of the letters and also the pic name. Assuming i was looking for a cup, I wiki'd the coloured word with cup at the end. Then using each year given in s/code...used the number beside it to count letters in the winning team of each year. Those letters spelled a word, which was the answer. This level was great fun too.
Ooopss...i forgot to say that the above is for Bigtanks level...sorry.
for Lulu : use the coordinates to find a place and notice that they are upside down
for Lulu egg: saw the calendar, found the pic and searched for smt that takes place there during that period, tried some but nothing...
maybe wrong direction...
try where that river is
Help please on Prem's level. Even reading hints above, im getting marshalite, fridge, freezer, frozen. I think i have a brain freeze. Thanks.
Clio,
Look for a band named Fridge.
Look for a synonym for marshalite and see if there's an album named like that.
Thank you small. Finally found it. I for sure needed the hint about the synonym for the marshalite. That was tricky Premiere. Thank you.
For Yoli's level, after picking your jaw up from the floor, remember lesson 101 riddling - source code. Check it for a hint. Back to the main pic, where you will see that each pic is actually a band name. Write down all the band names in the same way that the pics are placed. You will end up with 3 columns of 6 band names each - in total 18 names. Read the hint under the pic. What it means is: In the first column use the 1st letter, second column = 2nd letter. Third column = 3rd letter. You now have 18 letters that are gibberish, so use anagram-solver.net, to give you the answer - (you will know its right, because it relates to the s/code hint). Yoli, you are a very talented woman. This level is fun and fun with some fun thrown in for fun.
thanks mtatt, for Lulu egg1: just google what you see
For Premiere's level..Look at the bottom pic and read what is on the front and use wiki, it is the hint you need for the answer. You then need to get the three words on the top level pics, (note the middle pic has only half of the speech bubble). Third word is a slightly different spelling. Join the 3 words together and then google. Next find a synonym for what you found. Go back to that bottom pic wiki page, and find a word that is the synonym. That's your answer. Premiere, i spent hours on this one. Congratulations! You are a riddler for sure !
LOL, clio,
mayhaps I'm kinda a riddler - one of the cheating sort (my skill are way better in that art)...!
;-P
Btw: There's also a hint from the bottom pic name (& I don't mean the front)...!
;-)
for Lulu egg2: watch out the pic name is used in 2 ways
for Lulu egg4: im missing smt....
minus from what? any ideas ?
Faltu
i have tried lots of synonims of sppech balloons, word balloons, bubbles.. etc... and nothing owrks
for Lulu egg4: one part needs conversion and the other one just to see it closely and read
@new: Think how to use those numbers Globally.
Grego, try to combine a part of it with the colour.
Grego,
combine your first try written above (but only 1 word of it) with the colour...
well i am looking at some cute kitties but nothing springs to mind on the third egg of faltus
bigtank,
I'm stuck there, too, but I scrolled down...
or is it only the 2nd, where I am? (the one with the intruder LOL)
well i have been staring at that for ages, slaps head lol
well i got to the clock one now
Ah, haha, POP, eliminate the intruder LOLOL!
do tell, bigtank!
;-D
Bigtank and Premiere,
Look at the position of the clock hands.
(lol, especially you should know Premiere).
faltu "cats": LOL do i have to say salamandra ??
LOL, s-t,
should I?
Yep Premiere,
Think about your own level.
Again: Ah, haha, POP!
Faltu done!
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Thinking of my own level LOL!
LOL, how about refreshing...!
faltu cats: i scrolled down and saw and put it as an answer and the same page opened
is it smt so obvious
new,
did you click the «?» ?
LOL thanks Prem
ok faltu done now. another lovely level. thanks my lovely one
For Premiere: whos that in the middle ?
New,
That's a famous charachter in the Simpsons and he has a catchphrase.
Finally did it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im so happy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and what a GREAT FINALE !!!!
woohoooowoohoooo heyheyheyheyheyhey
Congrats and Thank you Clio and Yoli , what an excellent job you did , i did jump and dance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and Thank you again Jon and small-tool for the GREAT game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and thank you all friends for the excellent hints !!
(its like i got the Oscar LOLOLOL)
Hi guys! May I have a nudge on master lulu and master queenstrychex's levels?
level lulu: I have been looking at the french gentleman since yesterday without any progress. The pic name is sort of mixed up, "ordering" it does not help. I have also tried all his notable ideas but still no progress.
level queens: I have been looking at the blinking fruit for two days and don't know what to do with the 3 numbers. I've done lots of research about the sequence and nature already. Have I missed anything important?
Trying to get started on Small-tools level, but have stared at it for ages, and not a thing is coming to mind. May I have a kick-start please.
Hi clio_rose.
For small-tools level, use first two lines to figure out the code, use 3rd to prepare the text to be decoded, then decode. This will lead you to the egg.
Hi Ruff: For lulu's level, try figuring out what that french guy has to do with the country you have been led to. For Queen's level pay attention to the numbers and pick letters.
hi jbg, for lulu, it is related to the flag?
Did you try that Ruff. lol
Yeah, I did. I think I have to try it again. If it was a typo, I'll kill myself. :(
omg, I really need to kill myself. On second thought, I should delay killing myself as I still need to finish the level.
Thanks Ruff. I guess I need to think about it a bit more. Im still flummoxed.
@jbg, thx. level lulu's solved. I'll leave queens level for tomorrow.
@clio_rose, for small-tool level, read the 3rd line. Two of the 3 words are useful.
Good night, everyone!
Still stuck on the first bit of small-tools level..arrghh. This is what ive done. Changed the word "word" to morse, according to the first two lines, then reading third line changed the y to an a. Have no idea what the 4th line means.....and then converted the weird sentence to morse....and im stuck again. What now?
clio, if you ve converted the weird sentence to morse ,you should be able to read "c.... cr......"
,google that
Catching up!
I managed to solve the Clio riddle (very nice indeed !) but stuck on Luth and Donas.
For Luth I opened the timezone map and googlemaps, but I really can't figure out the answer. After trying 20 times I moved to Donas. Little did I know it's even harder. From once upon a time, once in a blue moon, fool me once, once in a lifetime,... None of it works :-(
Solved Gut too, makes me melancholic, thinking about my nanny who passed away.
virginie you had the answer but don't use once
Virginie, for Donas as mtatt said, one of your guesses is right but dont put the "once"
for Luth: You have to keep one place as a "0" find the difference in hours and find the right letters using the letters given for every place and the time difference
Stuck on level Queenstrychex the google/pikachu part. I have used colours of each word to determine the dots but cannot get anything meaningful. Please help!
Hi Ruff...
I took long time in this part too. If not Donas help me I was in till now. Thanks Donas for your patience..
you have to find the colors of each item above the squares
and using the list of colors you'll find where the dots are in each square
Hints from New...
For now, I'm stuck on the next egg, facebook page...
Lulu, for Queen FB page :Open the page (dont have to be an FB member) and read cerefully whats given as clues for piddles.
For small-tools level: I had no idea, and even with all the wonderful hints above (which NOW make sense to me), I had to have help every step of the way. First off, note the name of the level. Then quite literally apply what you are told in the first two lines of the poem to that title. You have then turned that word into a code. Note the 3rd line of the poem. Use the code (sort of) on the weird line at the bottom. Note that the first sentence has 5 words and second sentence 8. If you use the code in a freaky way you will end up with a series of 5 sets of dots and dashes and 8 sets of dots and dashes. Now use the code in the proper way, to give you two words. You know who it is, so type in the answer. On to the next part, and what a wonderful poem. Reading it, you realise you need to pick letters - but which ones? Count how many words in each line. However many words it has, that is the letter you need to choose from that line. You have your answer. I think this level is incredibly clever. I also think that i met smalls level picker wishes.
I've heard rumour of a legend that Debbie may have done Dallas. I care not of that legend. Forsooth, I tell thee that Clio hath defeated Donas and enjoyed every libation offered on her journey.
Yes, I did it!! :)
Thank you all creators of this riddle! Great job with a very nice concept!
I had some nice moments solving these levels. The most difficult part was to find time to be at the computer lol. Half an hour every now and then made it take quite a while lol. That's also the reason I havent been around to read and write comments here.
Thank you again! See you around!
@Ruff, very nice to see you again!
For queens pikachu, i might be blind, but I dont see any S in the coloregg. I had to try some letters with and without S until I found words that made sense. Three words, and two letters. No anagrams. Also, the Romania isn't correct. Try navy, yellow, blue.
thank you mtatt and new! How frustrating to know that was actually the first thing I tried *bangs head on keyboard*
Hi @Ellie. Long Time!!!!!!!!!! :D
Queen's braille is killing me. I cannot even make a letter out of billard 7-9, not to mention words. I'm gonna do it from scratch just in case I've overlooked something.
Yes, it sure was a long time since we played together!
For billiard you should use maroon for number 7. First row should give one word (I didn't know it was a word...). Second row gives one word and one letter and 3rd row also one word and one letter. Two of the words are math terms. Good luck!
Ellie!! how nice to see you around !!
Hows your beautiful daughter ??
Help please. I've run out of ideas of what to do with queens' pineapple.
hi clio,
count letters in each line (starting left), how many: indicated in each line.
Thanks Prem. Counting again...i must have done something wrong.
3 letters & granmaa
Thanks again Prem, i actually got it right the first time...but...made a typo...(time for a manicure)..lol
Still on queens. May i have help please? If i write down quickly what the letter = colour is...do i have to look at that colour page again? If so, i need a straight up cheat. The yellow is flashing my eyes and the lime and aqua are nearly as bad. Im so sorry queens, but i just cant 'see' that page properly.
lol clio - I shall fb you
Thank you Swissy. Even if i had been able to see those colours...i would have been back here begging for help. On to the next bit tho, thanks to you.
hi!..I finished the riddle last night...
I needed a lot of help, many levels WERE difficult, and very well prepared
thanks for everyone who helped me,
thanks to Jon for giving us such fun! also thanks to small tool and mtatt for the support they gave me to do my level
thanks to sweet girls Yoli, new, prem, clio, bigtank...you're nice!
Oh, I had so much fun I never laughed so hard! lol
For you see how funny the video is from Yoli and Clio .. hahaha
you guys have to play all levels! ...
Congratulations!!
finaly i have finished. thanks to you all for making your levels i loved them all. thanks small and jon and mtatt too. next time mine will have ten eggs too lol
PHEW!!!
Can't believe, that I finally have finished...!
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No more nightmares & sweating blood!!!
;-D
Phat riddle - TVM, all (co-)creators (*making a low bow*)!!!
(but my bone-lazy side didn't like all the work at all LOL!)
Conclusion: NEVER AGAIN!!! (till next time LOL!)
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At long last, I can go back to my beloved escape games...!
;-P
Yes, I did it! :D
Many thanks to jon, small-tool and all the masters, for creating such a wonderful riddle.
Also thank you all for helping me by sending me emails and leaving hints at EG24 and at riddlechat.
I am stuck on Queens 3rd egg.I got to the 'go look page' with symbols and numbers. Do I need to convert them and if so how?
yes if you are where I think you are it is a type of geek language 1337
Thank you mtatt100 for your help but I must being doing something wrong because all I'm getting is end of the world pages!!!! I normally use purple hell but their bandwith has been exceeded.
Hi juliet,
use this:
http://www.jayssite.com/stuff/l33t/l33t_translator.html
thank you lulu
Queens finally finished. Just have yours lulu, jbg and luthorien to go before I can rest my weary brain
Slowly, slowly....now stuck at Faltu's clock egg. Help, please.
Hi clio,
the hands of the clocks are making angles. Search for a tool in PH, where hands are holding something & their extentions are making angles...
:-o
Big hint:
Remember the answer of my level...!
;-D
Thanks Prem. Derr me.
Faltu finished.....only four more to go....yayyyy.
last one yipee..... lulu. Oh dear coordinates sob sob
Found a place on lulu tried a few things with upside down and not getting anywhere. Now I am wondering if have the right place - M.....
Is there anyone around to give me a clue please
Juliet,
I think you found the right place, but that's not the answer. You have to use that upside down hint to find a big country very, very far away from that place.
Thanks Small-tool. I found the place in the big country but not sure what to do next.
Juliet,
If you are on the second egg now (the one with the ball). Use part of the pic name to translate the code and the other part of the pic name to get the answer. I mean with that ball and the country and the year you get from that code you have a very big sports event coming up. Now don't overthink that half part of the pic name. Just name it what it is. And it's not only for that sports event it's the same name for a lot of sports events.
thanks small tool. I am now stuck again on egg 4. 'read me'. I have the numbers and have tried many many world statistics but am getting nowhere. Can I have a nudge please
It seems you already have the numbers.
But to be sure about that;
The top part is just binary. Use this site; http://home.paulschou.net/tools/xlate/
to decode it.
And the bottom part is not really binary, it's visual. The 0's make shapes of numbers.
For example, it start with; -4
And the numbers you have then are coordinates again. You're now looking for a famous mountain in that big country (and city) from that other egg.
Thank you. I have finished. Phew that was some riddle, quite hard but very interesting. Thanks for all the hints and a special thanks to small-tool I would not have been able to do lulu level without you.
That's Swiss done. Only two more to go. Congratulations Swissy...that was very very clever and taxed my maths half-brain - (yoli, please return to sender).
For Donas level. Look at the pic and you will know that there is a couple of sayings which start with that word. Meaning very rarely, is the saying you want...type it in, no spaces, to get you to the second page. There, note the pic and title. Googling those two things together will lead you to a band. Looking on the wiki page, you will see an album name which is familiar. Go to that album and then using the numbers on the level pick your letters. eg - 1.1.1 = first song, first word, first letter. Enter that word and move on to the third part of this riddle. YUMMM..relieve your thirst and then....note the side bar and scroll down...there is a hint. Also open the pic in a new tab and note the name of it. I was able to guess immediately what the word was, but if needed - google the word drink followed by the two words you now have and there is your answer....you will know you have the right one because it makes sense. I loved this level. It was really good fun to do and i really liked the creativity of it. Super level, Donas.
The next i tried was Queens. I can only give a partial explanation on this one. First off, we have a rebus. It is asking for the name of a famous cartoon characters home. Once you type that in, you will have a pic of that, with some numbers flashing on it. Using those three numbers apply only the appropriate one to the sentence which contains that number. You will then have a 3 letter word. Type that in to move you on to the next page. Have a nervous breakdown, but then use rule 101 and check the source code....it will give you the biggest hint as to what to type in next. It will lead you now to a colour page. Unfortunately for me (gnuck gnuck..meant i didnt have to do the hard work tho)...the colours gave me a migraine. I believe you have to apply the colours to the previous page...but someone else will have to explain, because i cant. I was given the answer and moved on to the next page, which is sooooooo cute. I cant tell you how to solve this part either. I knew the answer, because I remembered it. I enjoyed the small part i was able to do on this level, but really, I know i didnt do much myself. Congratulations queens, that was a very brainiac level.
Sweet Faltu's level was my next attempt at becoming a riddle-player. Looking at the pic, ignore the man but note the colour of what is coming out of his mouth. Using that colour and joining it to what he is doing...type that in and move on to the next page. Argghh!! Ok...calm down. Its a language, but not of this earth, but somewhere in the middle. Think of a famous movie. Anyway, type it all into google and you will see what they mean. Note what kind they are (and i dont mean which language) and type in your answer...it is a three letter word. Look at the cute pic and note the not-so-cute one. Also, check the side bar. Once again you can scroll down...which will lead you to a ? Click on that and then you will find yourself on a page with a familiar code. Just remember, as there was an odd one out in the pic, so there is an odd one out in the code. Type in your answer and move to the next page. Note the times. Think of the times as being on an analogue clock and pretend the arms are holding flags. This will give you the code to use for your 5 letter answer. I had a good time on this riddle. Thanks sweet faltu.
New's level is a heap of fun to do. First off, note the source code. Then back on the riddle page answer the question, thats all. Then answer it again with the opposite. Note that each time you were taken to a page with letters forming your answer. Note the position of each letter and then apply that position to the corresponding letter on the riddle page. (i used counting, but you could use tracing paper or there is probably an easier way). Anyway, reading across at the letters you have chosen you will see that you can read a question. As a further hint, in the question/answer page some letters are fainter. Note those letters down as well. So, you have your s/code hint, two questions you have worked out and the faint letters. Thinking about all those things will give you the answer. What a fun, time-consuming and really very satisfying level this was. Congratulations, new. This riddle is a beauty.
A little extra for the first part of Donas her level: If you found the saying, don't use the first word of it, that word is already on the pic.
For SwissMiss riddle: First off, read the text and note that in each paragraph (except the 4th), she has referred to mathematics in some way. Next task; click on each paragraph, which will open a pic, each of which is something of height - except the 4th pic which indicates which unit of measure to use. After getting all the measurements, apply the maths indicated in each para to each para's pic. Then, using A = 1, you will find that you have been asked a question. Answer that, and you've solved this riddle. This one took me a me more than a day. I read in comments here about pics...but derr me, didnt think to click on the text. After I found the pics, I had a blast, particularly as I got the maths wrong which gave a very funny question , but luckily with the last words correct, was able to work out what it was supposed to be. Congratulations on a fun, and very clever riddle, Swissy.
On to Luthoriens riddle. Firstly, click on the image. It will open in a new tab, at a more readable size. Note the word in the text at the bottom which is a different colour. Using that word, and noting the vertical lines in the pic, and remembering where Great Britain is in relation to those lines, work out the + and - of each location indicated. When you have done that, add or subtract that number of letters from the letter given. Anagram those letters...and you have your answer. I loved this riddle, tho i needed help when i got two zones incorrect. It ended up being a lot of fun, though when i first saw it, i was terrified. Thanks Luth, this was a challenge, but a fun one.
And finally...Lulu. Crikey! 1. See the co-ordinates are upside down. Firstly find the co-ords right way up, then using the site: http://www.antipodemap.com/ , find the country. Type it in, to go to the next bit. 2. Using google image, copy the url into there, and find the name of the river...but..use the city name in full, no spaces. 3. Next off, you know what the top part of the pic is, however the bottom part looks like gibberish. It isnt....its a language Jim, but not as we know it. Use this site: http://www.omniglot.com/writing/klingon.htm ... and de-code. Tricky bit here. You now know the event..BUT...any sporting event ends up being played out in the 'f****'. That is the word you need. 4. On to that man, so...using google image, find out who it is, and wiki. Scrolling down the wiki page, you will see a pic of something associated with the country. Use that word. 5. Decode the binary in the top half, and then lining up the zeros in the bottom half, you will have a set of co-ords. Use those and find the monument. 6. See all those pics? Using first word, first letter; second word second letter...type in your 5 letter answer. Yayy..you defeated Lulu. What a Mistress of Riddledom she is. I congratulate you Lulu. That was a killer, but each step felt like a huge achievement for me. Im very proud to have completed this level..even tho, i took a flying guess a couple of times and got it right.
And now...did i forget to say at the beginning? Write down EVERYTHING you had been given at the end of each riddle. Sorry about that...but you needed to. What you have now, is 15 different parts of a very very long equation. Using the letters above each part of the equation...anagram those 15 letters. That will give the order in which the super-equation needs to be written down. Do the maths. Sorry, can't help you with it, because i couldnt do it. I wrote it down incorrectly. However, apply the rules of maths about brackets and multiply being ahead of minusing etc. If done correctly..you will have a 17 digit number. Finally, using A= 1 ...get a four word saying. Type it in - and - You've succeeded...Done, finito, finished, fin, end. Woohooo. If you are anything like me...im guessing, you just want to SHOUT. Congratulations, to jonthewatch for making this, and to all the contributors. ... cept Small-tool. He deserves to be shot for that last equation!! And immediately after being shot, he should then be awarded a medal for an utterly brilliant equation. That really is a most amazing feat he achieved, which can only be truly appreciated, when you get the answer. HUGE CONGRATS TO SMALL.
caught this one from the random section
wanted the riddle to (re)post as a replay
as a nice warm-up for all riddle fans
but the site is frozen...! :-(
anyway - WATCH THIS SPACE...?! ;-)
what a great community (even: family) we were...! ♥♥♥ (*sigh*)
Dang! Got this as random, too. It's been ages since I played a riddle. Loved the ones from Creo...
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